“....it started to get to me after awhile” so says cinema’s hardly-disputed champ. That he made mock moon-films (and some used), isn't seriously debated/(for a NASA lens used on Barry Lyndon(?)); that ‘The Shining’ is choca with signs; or rumours he told a friend, got caught, hence his death (more..?). But the bigger quest is over; Stan ‘in or out the bad-man club’-or- ‘in but got out’, or ‘out but...’?
Stan the man. Arts undisputed...
The question ‘did/didn't - go/land’ is almost unique in the division of opinion among the flock of undercover-ers. Credibility for public-ones requires firm denial they’re a ‘believers ...we did’. For pushers ‘didn't’ it’s patently nonsense anyone did, or even ever can, tend to stomp on their critics in mocking joy.
Alex “did” Jones, recently re-accused he’s a “didn’t” had to re-flag up his allegiance to dampen even more lampooning. Thing is, one of his guests some years back, a senior insider (NASA-worlds/at the time), about as best placed as anyone I've heard to comment, said; “I dunno, ...Apollo 13 would've been hard to fix a fake”. The people involved? Who knew, thought, saw... what? What?
Personally, I don’t know much about Apollo this or that, but did / n’t?
...I don’t know?
Does this lovers ode to Stanley by T. Patrick - for me - in its wonderfully upsetting, cut and splice, soundscaping collage: Forcefully convict for some gob-smacking repentance? The silence at the end is deafening.
More don’t know. And maybe neither, for sure, did Stanley? The Manhattan Project is a disarming blueprint of how it may never have been. Any(more) whistle-blowers would overturn this table called history. Wonder how ‘did’ researchers will address this confession?
One ‘could be?’ Especially since T.Patrick was - must've been - allowed, to put this out: This is part of an unfolding acceptance speech from the con-er central.
We be lied to. We ok about that?
Unedited interview part 1 and 2:
K: I’m so preoccupied. With my work, innovation, risk-taking, regrets…
T: Why are you giving this interview?
K: Because, it started to get to me after awhile. Well, this is difficult, because it is the first time I’ve talked about it. (sighs)
T: Sure, take all the time you need.
K: I’ve always been conflicted by it, but not consciously until years later. I was just blown away by the chance, the opportunity, the challenge of making this, this production, and I went into this like it was a regular film, like another regular film of mine, not thinking too much about uh the long term effects of what it would mean to society if it was ever discovered.
T: What are you talking about? I’m dying to know what you’re talking about.
K: Well, a confession of sorts. A movie I made, that nobody is aware of – even though they’ve seen it.
T: A movie you made, no one knows you made? Is that what you said?
K: That’s right. Is that intriguing? Do I have you intrigued?
K: I perpetrated a huge fraud on the American public, which I am now about to detail, involving the United States government and NASA, that the moon landings were faked, that the moon landings ALL were faked , and that I was the person who filmed it.
T: Ok. (laughs) What are you talking…You’re serious. Ok.
K: I’m serious. Dead serious.
K: Yes, it was fake.
T: Ok. Wait. Wait…
T: I don’t want this to be an R-rated film, but seriously, what the blank, but seriously…
T: I, I, I worked almost eight months to secure this once in a lifetime interview that almost no else could ever get, and instead of talking about his sixteen films that I’ve endured since I was a child…That we didn’t land on the moon, you’re saying?
K: No, we didn’t.
K: It was not real.
T: The moon landings were fake?
K: A, a, a.. fictional moon landing. A fantasy. It was not real.
K: Don’t you think it’s important for people to know the truth?
T: The moon landing in ’69, which was two years before my birth…
K: Is total fiction.
T: Total fiction.
T: Is that?…So, that’s the 15 year thing. So that’s makes sense now. That’s why I can’t release it for 15 years now, that makes total sense now.
T: Did we…we didn’t land on the moon you’re saying?
K: No, we didn’t.
T: Why are you telling me?
K: A, a, a, a massive fraud. An unparalleled fraud perpetrated against them. They SHOULD know.
K: Nixon want to uh, they were planning, yeah, he want to fake this, this moon landing…
T: Are you contending that people DON’T want to know the truth about the world, reality, the moon landings…?
K: The government, knowing this, takes advantage of it by perpetrating fraud after fraud after fraud.
T: How did you end up giving in? Being complicit with this fraud?
K: I didn’t want to do it.
T: This is NOT where I thought this interview was going!
K: With my help, with my, with my aid, and it is, it is bothering me.
T: I only have this certain amount of time with you. And I’ll talk about whatever you want, but…
T: You’re not…This isn’t some type of joke, or…
K: No. No, it’s not.
T: Or a film within a film thing…
K: Not joking. NOPE.
K: The conspiracy theorists were right, on this occasion.
T: I don’t know what to ask you first.
K: I thought it was wrong, I just…I didn’t believe in perpetrating a fraud like that.
T: But you did.
K: It also undermined my artistic integrity to do that.
T: Ok, but you ended up saying yes. Why?
K: Well, yes, but because basically I was bribed. To put it bluntly, that’s what it was. It was just a plain fucking bribe.
T: Why are you telling me?
K:A, a, a, massive fraud. An unparalleled fraud perpetrated against them. They SHOULD know! Don’t you think it’s important for people to know the truth?
T: Why did they have to fake it? Why? Why would they ever need to do something like that? Why would the government ever want or need to do…
K: It’s no secret that NASA always wanted to fulfill this Kennedy prophecy.
T: Take it from the beginning…
T: I gotta be honest, this is where he (Kubrick) got me. I mean, when I actually put myself in his position, when I actually imagine that he was telling the truth, and that he was presented with this opportunity and if in the one in a billion chance that I lived his life and I was presented with the same opportunity, what would I do?
T: Yeah, he wanted his approval points up and he thought nothing could do it better than this.
T: What a conflict. I mean, gosh, I can’t imagine being presented with that opportunity. On one hand, I’d really would want to do it, but then I’d probably say I’m committing a crime, and lying…
T: It depends, but my guess would be…no, if you’re good, but you would do it.
K: Spielberg, (inaudible) Scorsese, even Woody Allen. There isn’t one of them who wouldn’t do this.
T: I gotta admit: I’d do it. I’d do it too.
T: But they dangled all this power and all this flattery on you, essentially?
K: Yeah, it got to me after awhile. You can listen to so much of that stuff before you start to believe it.
T: They just said you were the greatest and stuff?
K: Yeah, yeah – and I agreed with them.
K: Why are you telling the world? Why does the world need to know that the moon landings aren’t real and you faked them?
K: Which I consider to be my masterpiece.
T: And you can’t take credit, or even talk about…
K: Well, I am now..
T: Right, so you’ll be dead. In ten years, or 15…
K: Right, ten or 15 something like that.
T: So, you can’t talk to Roger Ebert about it. Does that frustrate you?
T: Why did they have to fake it? Why would they have to do that?
K: Because it is impossible to get there.
T: Ok, back up, back up, back up….